The end game
by Volker Weber
Tags: lotus notes domino workplace
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It does say "Domino" at the end. :-)
Right about then it should be so bloated and complex, only the five richest kings in Europe will have the resources to install it.
@Damien:
Are you about to offer any non-bloated, non-complex but feature rich alternative until then ? ;-) I'm looking forward to seeing your solution ...
@Damien:
Still giggling about your comment and the fairy tale innuendo...
I'm just saying, sometimes less is more.
But I'm sure merging Domino and Websphere will really simply customers lives. How could it not, with all those features in one package and the ease of use and quick installation IBM is famous for?
thats exactly what we saw at Lotusphere when looking at Domino "Next". But no one showed this kind of slide,and nobody dared to put it this way. Is this an "official" slide now?
If one's talking about a "two lane highway", it find it rather difficult to narrow it. Seen just from the aspect of marketing....
hmm.
Bruce's comment is the point, really -- Notes/Domino are the end-game, and in their next releases they will integrate key components of the Workplace technologies.
In the case of Notes, the primary delivery vehicle for "Hannover" is on the Workplace Managed Client/Eclipse platform. This is not new news. In the next Domino release, we announced at Lotusphere that it would incorporate Portal and Workplace technologies.
I don't love the chart, as it implies that something is "going away". That's not the point. The point is convergence, and if you look closely, both color lines are represented going forward.
2008. This may give other technologies and companies enough time to develop what people realy want: a realy simple alternative to that.
Yes and no. I believe you won't find any really simple replacement for the functionality Notes/Domnio/Workplace can offer. Otoh you won't find that many customers who really need all the functionality offered by current or future releases. So the trick would be to build a product that offers all things the customers needs and maybe some he wants and do it in a way that's simple to install, manage and use. While this list only contains five points, it's quite hard to get all or even most of them right. So 2008 doesn't sound like a big window of opportunity to me.
Hopefully it isn't like a real road, where people see roadwork signs and two lanes merging into one and look for alternate routes.
@Alexander: Bob and Karen showed slides that indicate the same in their jumpstart. I like those more than the one above. See JMP 205 slides 37-39.
Indicates a merge of development tools as well.
Looks like the revenge of the Raven team to me . The Lotus Portal was far ahead in it's concept to Websphere only hampered by an anaemic jvm/j2ee implementation. So getting that back seems like a good thing to look forward to. Looking at Websphere6 things have come a long way. Installing Websphere4 was like a science degree, Websphere6 is more like a highschool science project. Since the entire Websphere configuration is stored in XML it should be a managable task to add the needed forms to the Domino directory (Third party anyone?).
Also it will be a good thing to have the ability to base forms on schemas. So it makes a lot of sense.
On top of my wishlist: do not let any of the products be released without IBM's usability lab giving their blessing to ALL parts (including the installer).
My 2c
@Damien: I would anytime trade my next set of Christmas presents for a working copy (alpha/beta) of Fabric/Couch.
Maybe the diagram refers to the marketing strategy for these products going forward into 2008 and beyond - the converging lines represent the point at which the marketing gets confusing and where no one can tell where one product ends, and another begins?
I am allergic against those marketing/consulting nonsense slides. We should ask the author(s) to quantify "capabilities / innovation" ;-)
What is the surprising part on this chart?
Sorry, I do not get it.
Thanks Volker
Lets us see it this way: We have Workplace Designer 2.6 at a feature level close to Notes 3/4.x now
IMHO that would mean, as from now, a feature freeze for Notes/Domino or
does anybody believe that otherwise Workplace will be able to catch up with Notes/Domino? :)
I would like to read your comments.
BTW, Volker... Remember: they haven't about usability yet...
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