Crosswinds
by Volker Weber
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Vom Winde verweht?
Witzig, die Passagiere auf der Steuerboard Seite sehen mehr von der Landung und der Landebahn als der Pilot im Cockpit. Heftig das !
... erinnert mich an eine Landung in Bangkok, Herbst 1988, Boeing 747 ... es war MONSUN, d.h. es SCHÜTTETE wie aus Eimern ... der Pilot kündigte in wohlgesetzten Worten "eine etwas härtere Landung" an - "das sei aber völlig normal, da es halt momentan auf dem Boden etwas feucht sei " ... und dann KNALLTE er den Riesenvogel dermaßen auf die Piste, dass der Laie annahm, das gesamte Fahrwerk nebst Reifen sei in 1 sec zu Brei zerquetscht worden ... ach was: alles im grünen Bereich. Naja, ich habe danach weder Fahrwerk noch Reifen besichtigt ;-)
Habe ich (leider ? zum Glück ??) nie wieder erlebt - ich nehme an, dass "normalerweise" bei einem solchen Sauwetter einfach keiner landet ... So I'm still with you :)
So ein "schiefer" Landeanflug ist eigentlich eine völlig normale Sache für einen Piloten: im Fachjargon nennt man das "Slip" und derselbe Flugzustand wie im Video kann auch ohne heftigen Seitenwind durch gegenläufiges setzen von Quer- und Seitenruder hergestellt werden. Wurde/wird häufig im Segelflug eingesetzt, um im Landeanflug etc. schnell Höhe zu vernichten.
Und die Reporterin kann sogar im Flugzeug dekorativ eine Showtreppe runtersteigen ... sehr nett.
A similar sort of thing, but from a different angle and with passengers:
und finally hatte sogar Fernando Alonso seinen Gastauftritt ...wird ganz kurz bei 1:38min eingeblendet.
Na ja, da Schumi bei WM noch mitgefahren ist, hat er wohl nicht so gut verdient und somit macht er in der freien Wintersaison ein paar Testflüge mit.
Von Fahrwerk hat er ja Ahnung.
As Axel pointed out, the dangerously looking approach angle is a common flight maneuver. This is not an effect of the crosswinds. The maneuver is called "slip" and it is used to rapidly loose height in a controlled way. I have done it numerous times in this plane.
The important thing is that you get the nose straight before touching the ground.
You are correct, it was very poorly executed though. I have done it numoreous times also in this plane
Carl, can u expand on why u think it was very poorly executed.
Speaking of a poorly executed landing with X winds: See
here
Joel, far to easy to criticize a landing when you are not at the stick yourself.. ;-)
That was probably a landing attempt in extremely severe conditions, the captain did the best he could and finally decided (very wisely) to go round.
I'm just glad I wasn't in the passenger compartment for the one that Joel posted. Eesh.
That Kai Tak video is a favorite of mine. Not being an engineer, it blows me away that the landing gear can take a landing like that.
Peter, Look at the windsock, there is hardly any wind. Another clue that it was not a crosswind landing From the video it doesn't like he does a go around. You are right though, it is always easier to criticise when you are not there.
Joel, Why was it poorly executed? When he comes out of the slip he is way to the right of the center line. The other thing is he could have had his altitude corrected way before he got to that stage of the landing. If he was still too high, he could have done a go around then. Now we don't know what else was going on in the area, he may have avoided something, the cameraman for example, we'll never know. As the saying goes though, any landing you walk away from is a good landing.
Carl, I'm now confused, r u talking about the 380 landing, or the 747 ? I thought at 1st you were talking about the original post (ie the 380), but now I think you were really talking about the Korean 747 landing.
Carl, my bad, you were right as the 747 landing in Hong Kong was basically with no wind.
I was instead referring to the A321 landing attempt in Lisboa.
Look at the trees, there must be at least 30/40 knots wind gusts, not much fun to be on the controls in such a situation... :-)
Pieter. yeah that one is a very different landing
On the 321 landing.. something is flying across the field of vision 21 seconds into the video.
I think that its some kind of debris taken to the air by the strong wind gusts, so the wind seems to be rather strong....
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