I just dropped Safari in favor of Firefox

by Volker Weber


I have been kicking this idea around for a while. The main reason for change was that Safari was getting slower all the time. Very often it switches on the beach ball while it creates a new tab behind the current and loads a webpage. I used to be able to command-click ten links and it would just open them in the background without affecting my ability to work in the foreground. No longer. Very often I get the beach ball and Safari no longer listens. I am not really sure what is causing the different behaviour. And I am not willing to invest the time to find out.

So, at least for now it is Firefox. The king is dead. Long live the king.


Na endlich. Dann kannst Du ab jetzt auch in Domino R7 Webadmin benutzen. Firefox geht, Safari nicht (Safari's schuld).

Thomas Gumz, 2004-10-02

Did you try cleaning out (or disabling entirely) the Safari cache? More at http://forums.osxfaq.com/viewtopic.php?t=4924 if you might want to go back.

DaveP, 2004-10-02

I would prefer Camino (decidedly more Mac-like); the only two things that keep me using Safari are the spellchecker (due to its use of native Cocoa text controls) and Saft (http://haoli.dnsalias.com/Saft/).

Stefan Tilkov, 2004-10-02

Dave, yes I tried that. The relief was only temporary. Something else is broken.

Stefan, Camino is a white elephant. I try to stay closer to the beaten path. I actually like that Firefox on the Mac is identical to my Linux and Windows machines.

Volker Weber, 2004-10-02

You need a faster computer ;-)

No, seriously: emptying the cache helps at my system. What I dislike at Firefox / Mac is, that it doesn't seem to support keyboard shortcuts for switching between tabs and to move page up / down with the space bar.

Moritz, 2004-10-02

You switch tabs with Ctrl-Tab and the space bar does page down (but not up).

Volker Weber, 2004-10-02

I use Firefox at the office (Windows machine) all the time except in the morning when i print a lot. For that i need IE's "Print target" function a lot, which i have not yet found in ANY other browser around, unfortunately.

At home i'm still with Safari most of the time. No speed degragation yet for me. But as Firefox is getting better and better all the time (and definitely faster than Safari) i might switch soon as well. Same with Mail -> Thunderbird, i suppose.

Thomas, 2004-10-03

Killer Feature for me in Firefox:
Extension: Bookmark Synchronizer - the same bookmarks on my platforms (Windows, Linux).
Unfortunately not available for 1.0 PR (yet), but for 0.9.3.

Uwe Brahm, 2004-10-03

In case you don't like the display of form widgets in firefox, take a look at this http://kmgerich.com/archive/000072.html

Makes Firefox on Mac look good at last.

Benjamin Reitzammer, 2004-10-03

Some thoughts on FireFox (on the Mac):

The small extra window in Exposé still annoys the hell out of me.
Command-m opens the mail program?!
No ability to copy & paste rich text.

For me the last thing is a show stopper — for using Camino actually ... :-)
(I archive a lot of articles in DEVONthink and like to keep at least _some_ ›style‹ information.)

FireFox is the best browser for Windows, though! (IMHO ...!)

Christian Bogen, 2004-10-03

white elephant, n.
1. A rare, expensive possession that is a financial burden to maintain. 2. Something of dubious or limited value. 3. An article, ornament, or household utensil no longer wanted by its owner. 4. An endeavor or venture that proves to be a conspicuous failure. 5. A rare whitish or light-gray form of the Asian elephant, often regarded with special veneration in regions of southeast Asia and India.

Hmmmmm ... not sure what you mean here

Stefan Tilkov, 2004-10-03

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