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IBM Open Collaboration Client Solution Live DVD

by Volker Weber

Compare the clock between the time the splash screen appears and after the client is fully loaded:

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Perhaps it's like Guinness, and good things come to those that wait.

Perhaps we could get Ed to do an IBM version of this Ad, he could dance around a Notes splash screen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69MpLiYhsXw

What's Live DVD, is that like Ubuntu on a DVD?

It is Enterprise Software! What do you expect? :)

Carl, yes it is. The DVD boots into a live Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop.

Well, isn't it supposed to support collaboration between coworkers? Take those seven minutes, go to your department's coffee maker, meet your colleagues and collaborate. When you're back at your desk, your Notes is started and you can begin with wasting time by reading and answering useless e-mails ;-)

Of course one has to be fair and admit that it wouldn't load as long if it came from a hard disk. However, other applications don't take minutes to load from live CD/DVD either.

The DVD was distributed at the Notes launch event. I assume IBM marketing wants to use it to convince new users of the merits of Notes 8. That may not work as well as it was designed in PowerPoint.

Meinten Sie: "after the client is fully bloated"?

So, you noticed that the live DVD version starts a bit faster than the "real thing" when run from a hard drive?

j/k, but Notes 8 performance on Linux is quite sub*.* IMVHO — or is it "poorformance"…?

7 Minutes from a DVD? Not bad. Started from HD on my Siemens Lifebook it takes ca. 5 or 6 minutes. The Basic Client starts up in a few seconds. So, it's not IBM's fault. It's SUN's fault: Java is just a piece of crap. No more and no less.

Instead I'm using Notes8 with WINE. Not as fast as on Windows, but outspeeds that strange Java-thing by far. Not to mention the hundreds of MB of RAM and the billions of CPU-ticks it spares for much more important applications like xskat :-D

No, seriously. I said it once and i say it again: using Java was IBM second best idea. If you even can call it an idea...

Java is just a piece of crap. No more and no less.

Ahh, truth!

Or maybe it is simply that the hardware to power the bloat just hasn't yet been built. :-)

@Ralf!

sorry, but there must be something with your configuration, because i have installed Notes 8 Standard on my FSC Amilo Laptop and it starts under 1 minute. I think this is still not very fast, but acceptable. After it is started it performs well.

It is not javas fault, that IBM has choosen to integrate a big C++ application in an Eclipse environment which is extended by a office suite which consist of c++ code and plug ins and sametime and expeditor features.

I am a Java programmer and a simple Java programm opens in under 1 sec.

I would really like to use it. Unfortunately my usual work habits requires a quick responding interface. That is why Vista has been wiped from my Laptop after some days of trying and that is why I hardly ever start Notes 8 standard. But I do like the look and feel.

@Ralf M: You are talking about java on linux or windows?

Well i have the same DVD Volker has and mine started in much lesser time on a PC where it has pleeeeeeeenty of RAM to play with.

But ...
this piece was given to a german audience.
Well i would like to think that it should at last have a german keyboard layout assigned .....

It has not. And this makes playing aroung with it a little bit weird. Especially when you take it to your CIO and say here you can test this.

I find this utterly incredible (I mean, I do believe it, but I just can't believe it was used as a promotional device). Can someone at least give me an indication of how long Notes 8 standard takes to boot from a hard disk on Linux?

Lotus Notes 8 Standard on Opensuse 10.3 and a 1 year old laptop takes under 45 sec. You can substract 5 sec for entering my password, so i think 40 sec is long, but it is acceptable. If you have started it the working performance is ok. Screen refresh is a little bit slower than on Windows, but not much. Maybe those which have problems, should check there installation if the have any mistakes. Maybe one problem on many Linux desktops is, that the have no 2d acceleration activated in there X11 config.

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