Boys need toys

by Volker Weber



Ah, der Treo. Warum kriegt es eigentlich kein Mobilfunkprovider in Deutschland auf die Reihe, den endlich ins Programm zu nehmen? Grundsätzlich verfügbar scheint er ja zu sein. Aber e-plus schiebt ihn seit fünf Wochen vor sich her, bei den anderen hört man gar nichts.

Zu wenig Kiddie-Potential? Spielt er keine Real-Klingeltöne, 'tschuldigung Ringtones oder verträgt er keine Star Wars-Wallpapers?

Oliver Regelmann, 2005-06-08

You appear to have/own/use the creme de la creme, so do please tell us: which is the best for you and why?

Jan-Piet Mens, 2005-06-08

Kauf das Ding für echtes Geld und hol Dir die Prämie von einem Chip-Schacherer. ;-)

Volker Weber, 2005-06-08

Jan-Piet, I am working on it. ;-)

Volker Weber, 2005-06-08


Joerg Richer, 2005-06-08

Where will the results be published? c't? Here? Desperately looking forward to it!

Ragnar Schierholz, 2005-06-08

Volker - ich you want to compete with Russ, you've got a loooong way to go ;)

Frank Koehntopp, 2005-06-08

Frank, I am not displaying the obsolete stuff. :-) And no, I don't want to.

Volker Weber, 2005-06-08

Also das Sony-Eric P910i verkaufe ich nach 2,5 monatiger "vielleicht doch noch warm werden Phase" gerne sofort wieder. Taugt in meinen Augen gar nichts. Zu langsam, ergonomisch einfach ein Witz und den Rest erspare ich mir hier lieber.

Owen Menck, 2005-06-08

After one day of playing with the two new devices that I did not know very well (P910i and 6630) I can say that I don't like the P910i but I think the 6630 is a very cool phone.

The 6630 clearly is a phone, as opposed to a PDA with a radio. I sometime try to select stuff on the screen but of course it does not have a touch screen. :-) It is a smartphone, meaning that it can sync your calendar and contacts and you can add all sorts of software. Currently I have no objections at all. What a pity that the device is not supported by iSync.

The P910i tries to compete with Treo 650 and it fails. While the Treo can be operated without using a pen, you cannot really do this with the P910i. And frankly, I cannot see myself operating a phone with two hands. This is one of those things you cannot find out with a five minute test drive. You really need to play with them for quite some time before you realize how bad the P910i is when compared to a Treo. It can be put in the same class as Windows PocketPCs and it has some advantages over them, like the regular keypad on the flap. But I would not really call this a smartphone. It is just too hard to use. And frankly it is way too slow. This one does not win the editor-refuses-to-give-it-back award.

My current verdict: If you want more features than a smartphone like the Nokia 66xx can provide, you need to get a Treo. Having said that, I just learned I might get a Nokia 9300 in a few weeks. That is a completely different animal. I will let you know what I think of that.

Volker Weber, 2005-06-08

Sorry Volker, but in my opinion the P910i is the _only_ phone that "realy" can be handled with one hand. I realy miss the "jog dial" in other systems like the treo. You must have a long thumb to work with the trea in one hand :-).
The P910i is the best pda/phone I ever used.

Wolfgang Schmidetzki, 2005-06-09

Well, here's probably something coming up similar to the browser discussion. My guess is that each phone has its advantages and disadvantages.
The P910 (which I wouldn't want to give away except for a successor model maybe) is rather bulky, the Treo isn't much smaller: both nothing really to slide into your pocket pants. For this, the Nokia is probably the better choice.
I personally like the touchscreen/stylus handling of the P910. For demo purposes I just reinstalled the keyboard and I must say I am about 3-5 times faster using the stylus. Hence, the Treo is not really an option for me.
But I do see that everybody has his or her own preferences and that leads to the (not very surprising) conclusion that there is no single best smartphone. But from what I hear from Volker, the article is going to be more about the software on the phones rather than the phones themselves.
And that again is a different question which nonetheless also might become as emotional and personally biased as the browser discussion.

Ragnar Schierholz, 2005-06-09

Falls Du mal ausmistest: Ich hätte Interesse an dem einen oder anderen technischen Gimmick ;-)

... in der Annahme, dass Deine Bude vermutlich bald aus allen Nähten platzt ... vom Elektro-Smog ganz zu schweigen :-)

P.S. Auch sowas wie ein gutes altes W48 würde ich nicht verschmähen :) => Für die Jüngeren unter uns: das ist DAS legendäre Wählscheiben-Telefon der Deutschen Bundespost aus den 50er Jahren, bleischweres Bekalit (?), mit richtig fetter Gabel, und mit einem Tote erweckenden Klingelton, der vermittels einer richtig schön scheppernden Metallklingel erzeugt wurde ... ein Traum in Elfenbein oder Schwarz ...

Stephan Perthes, 2005-06-09

What a shame that the 6630 is not supported by iSync. I know there is a list of iSync-supported devices, but does anyone have experience (good or bad) with a Nokia device and iSync? I am in the process of finally "switching" to Mac OS X and I'd love to know of a device that actually syncs iCal, Address Book and co. Any recomendations?

Jan-Piet Mens, 2005-06-09

Series 60 support is very spotty in iSync. Apparently the sync agent that iSync installs on the device does not work with all versions. The somewhat outdated batch of phones from SonyEricsson (T6xx) works nicely as do the Razr and the Treo.

Volker Weber, 2005-06-09

Den Treo 650 gibts hier mit jedem Provider.

In Hannover haben die auch ein Ladengeschäft. Also wer zur DNUG Konferenz fährt....

Robert Krauss, 2005-06-10

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