9-month-old on "no fly" list of suspected terrorists

by Volker Weber

Sarah Zapolsky was checking in for a flight to Italy when she discovered that her 9-month-old son's name was on the United States' "no fly" list of suspected terrorists.

"We pointed down to the stroller, and he sat there and gurgled," Zapolsky said, recalling the July incident at Dulles International Airport outside Washington, D.C. "The desk agent started laughing...She couldn't print us out a boarding pass because he's on the no-fly list."

Looks like they are using first and given name as their primary key. BTW: Did they catch anyone besides Cat Stevens and Barry Briggs?

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I know that this war is serious; people everywhere are losing their lives. But I wonder if we all aren't maybe going (or have gone) in ineffective directions.

I'm pretty sure that "terrorists" have figured out how to change their names, and create fade id's. Maybe the name thing has passed. You think?

Eric Parsons, 2005-12-16

The government needs to keep people scared, this is just one of the many tactics.

Carl Tyler, 2005-12-16

In the text it gets even better:

While the number of suspected terrorists on the list is unknown, aviation sources estimate that it includes tens of thousands of names, if not more.

The country is full of terrorists! The really scary thing for me is, that people who conceptiualised this system obviously really believe what they say!

Thomas Nowak, 2005-12-16

Come on. If one Joe Normal made it onto the no fly list, who says all the other Joe Normals are clean? We really shouldn't be too picky here. It's the national security, stupid!

Haiko Hebig, 2005-12-16

I do not like to fly to the USA. There are so many terrorists !! The list is so full of people.

Thorsten Ebers, 2005-12-16

And while the nine-month-old are getting captured, the real terrorist got away

Oliver Stör, 2005-12-16

Of course the real one got away, because when he was asked what his name was, he said "George Bush", and that name wasn't on the terrorist list.

Ben Langhinrichs, 2005-12-17

@Haiko. I may be misreading this, but I really hope you aren't saying what I think.

I'm not clean, but certainly not a terrorist either. I suppose I could lose control of a car, and injure someone, which anyone could. I know I've gotten caught going a bit fast also. (Thank God, they didn't catch me going way too fast :-)) The point here is that a person's name is not sufficient to identify the individual.

And maybe that this terrorist thing is a bit overblown.

Eric Parsons, 2005-12-18

as long as the US does not change its ways substantally, I am not going there anymore. The people in charge obviously have no idea how difficult they make it for US citizens abroad (and I am not one of them, simply observing) and I still have no idea why one of my family members at least accepted the invitation to be a US citizen. I am perfectly aware that my not going there is not sufficient punishment for the powers that be ;-)

The "war on terrorism" is plainly visible to the world as a means of controlling their own people even more than before (only this explains the complete failure in NO), and they just have to ge the drift of how to execute to be a totalitarian state, not everybody in authorities has understood the necessity of efficient control yet. Their agencies & government will get better everyday, until at least nobody will voice his concerns openly anymore. Mind control is just a second away, so it seems.

Maybe this is what the surrounding countries felt in the 30´s when looking at Germany. Or is this just a bad dream? I pity the american people, because it is only a game of the ruling class, and not something anybody wants, but I still have to voice my concerns in them not stopping the process, which is causing not only irritation but deep sorrow internationally.

Land of the free? Or is that just a bad dream, from someone haunted by his own history?

Armin Roth, 2005-12-18

>The "war on terrorism" is plainly visible to the world as a means of controlling their
>own people even more than before (only this explains the complete failure in NO),
>and they just have to ge the drift of how to execute to be a totalitarian state,
>not everybody in authorities has understood the necessity of efficient control yet.

Thank goodness for their ineptitude then.

Seriously, I think that the road America is taking now is one that it is creating unknowlingly, piece by piece, and each of those pieces is made by different groups in America, with different aims. It is a political mish mash of people wanting to grab power, people wanting to stay in power, people wanting to protect America, people wanting to protect the companies, all of them have different views and overlapping and/or conflicting interests.

All that chaos creates a road ahead that has not been decided by common consensus, but has been assembled piece by piece by different people - they nor we see the big picture until after it is made and we step back and suddenly see what America is becoming - a state where freedom for America is put so high that it is put before any individual freedom.

Of course, this is just me thinking...

Alex Boschmans, 2005-12-18

very much so, Alex. No need for conspiracy theories here, I guess :-)

Armin Roth, 2005-12-18

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