IBM can't be bothered

by Volker Weber

Bruce finds out that redirects to instead of the Lotusphere home page and then goes on:

You end up at the default IBM web site - right? Ok so you did. Now on search for "Lotuphere" and the first search results are from Lotusphere 2003. Somebody needs to fix this.

Ed comments:

With all the products, brands, offerings, and events that IBM runs, it would be impossible to manage every single domain name related to IBM on an ongoing basis. So the decision was made to redirect a bunch of auxiliary domains to rather than manage them. I know it's not great but it is what it is.

That is a very awkward way to say "nobody really cares". You can make redirect to the Lotus home page on, but you can't redirect to the proper URL? Although it is already being redirected? How hard is it to say "I know this is stupid, I have known it for a long time (which is true, BTW), I tried to fix it, but nobody cares"? instead of driving the final nail into the coffin:

Somehow thousands of people manage to register for Lotusphere every year without this domain name.

You are going to care, if they no longer do? Or shut the whole thing down, because "with all the products, brands, offerings, and events that IBM runs, it would be impossible to manage every single conference related to IBM on an ongoing basis" ?

This calls for some fun. What are the leading brands in the IBM software group, and how are they being managed?,,,, Uh, oh. Now for some products?, ok, that was unfair., ... Loads of fun.


Searching "lotusphere" on google gives the correct link to (at last if you search "the web" instead of the default "in german").
So IBM shoul'd probably just redirect to google search ;-|
(BTW: I was amused to find Innovation Gate in the google search result :-))

Wolfgang Schmidetzki, 2006-01-05

Don't forget in the list of popular IBM redirects, what would I do without it ;-) Much easier to remember than the real address.

Moritz Schroeder, 2006-01-05

Are there any big corporations which succeed to "master" web addresses, domain names, product and project-related websites?

I remember a pitch for a Groove project to a well known consumer electronics and media company a couple of years ago. As an example application I invented a cross-division project to harmonise and improve the websites including style guide, policies, tips, guidelines, content management, ad agency cooperation etc. For fun I used the MindMapping tool to branch out old sites/domains, currently used domains and registered domains... After half a day effort, several hundred sites and domains, I gave up. Every division and every product manager seemed to reinvent the wheel, a lot of flash and little substance. I bet not much has changed since then.

Moritz Schroeder, 2006-01-05

@Wolfgang - I always use Google to search IBM, it's far more accurate than IBM's own search engine. Try searching for 'passport advantage' for example!

Ben Rose, 2006-01-05

Ben, I agree and use that a lot. It used to be the only way to find the download for the Sun Java SDK, until Sun got their act together and redesigned.

Volker Weber, 2006-01-05

Moritz, Agreed. I fear for the day when they drop the domain.

Ben, Volker, also agreed. Especially on Passport. I actually broke down and bookmarked the login page for that because it takes me so long to find it from the IBM/Lotus site. And I hardly ever bookmark things at work, preferring to email myself links...I don't use my for work, though I probably should.

Scott Gentzen, 2006-01-05

Hmm..and doesn't seem to get me to this site :-)

Anil Vartak, 2006-01-05

@Anil, is his "brand" name.

Bruce Elgort, 2006-01-05

See me eat crow

Ed Brill, 2006-01-05

And to think I just talked about another instance of IBM taking ownership of certain areas yesterday

Chris Miller, 2006-01-05

Oh I forgot the link tags.......

Chris Miller, 2006-01-05

Chris, those are two different sets of problems:

- I can't be bothered to get the job done right.
- I have to make this as complicated as possible.

Volker Weber, 2006-01-05

Another nice one. Try the difference between and

Ingo Erdmann, 2006-01-06

It's alive! It's alive!

Richard Schwartz, 2006-01-07

I forgot the link tags too ;-)

Richard Schwartz, 2006-01-07

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