Cheap labor

by Volker Weber

This is the latest comment spam fad:

Comment spam

Post a positive, but empty comment, trying to scoop up some Google juice. Usually done with cheap labor, in this case from the Ukraine:

Last login: Wed Oct 11 09:06:45 on ttyp1
Welcome to Darwin!
Raven:~ vowe$ whois
inetnum: -
netname: UKRTELNET

Since I do not want to deal with those spammers again, I am excluding their ISP from access to the site:

RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} ^82\.207\.5[0-1]\. [OR]

I had a much larger network just this morning. 6 Class-B networks:

RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} ^218\.1[3-8]\. [OR]

That is almost 100 million IP-addresses. Goodbye, Chinanet Guangdong province network.


Too bad that they now can't read your good bye message anymore :-)

Ragnar Schierholz, 2006-10-11

Better to let 'em read and do the check on the comment post.

Kevan Emmott, 2006-10-11

They can. If they would come back they would get an access denied. But they never check.

Volker Weber, 2006-10-11

Could u base the display of the comment option based on the network? This way people in exotic places can read your blog but won't spam it.
Just a thought.
:-) stw

Stephan H. Wissel, 2006-10-11

Well, I could for instance let them fill out the comment form and then decline to accept their comment. But I'd rather keep those crooks and their spiders completely off my site.

Volker Weber, 2006-10-11

How about an endless captcha loop? It should of course produce statistics on how many times they try on average.

Ole Saalmann, 2006-10-11

Which part of "off my site" is hard to understand? :-)

Volker Weber, 2006-10-11

I don't think it's hard to understand. Consider server bandwidth as a scarce resource. Then you simply want to use it in the best possible way which in this case means reaching the users which really are interested in the content of the site. Such as me. Thanks!

Ragnar Schierholz, 2006-10-11

Holy ****!! I hope no-one will ever spam you from my ISP!!!

Giuseppe Grasso, 2006-10-11

Giuseppe, unless you move to China or Eastern Europe, you are safe. ;-)

Volker Weber, 2006-10-11

For a case in point re spammers killing a site's bandwidth, talk to Colin Williams. I would provide a permalink to the post in question on his site, but there's no search or archive! So, here's the cached page:

Look for 'Comment spam bites hard'

Ben Poole, 2006-10-11

It is "Ukraine", not "the Ukraine"
Obviously you have not been there.

Sam Hill, 2006-10-12

I keep repeating myself, but I find that it works so very well... Akismet would do the trick nicely as well - since I've installed it I've had exactly one spam coming through (not that I get enormous amounts of spam).

There's a movable type plugin as well ->

(I'll stop making remarks about this before vowe thinks I'm spamming him with Akismet adverts... :-) )

Alex Boschmans, 2006-10-12

Well, this is what got me worried. Labor is also cheap in Indonesia, India, Malaysia etc. And this are the places I read your blog from... So just not showing the comment section for banned subnets should remedy the problem without loosing your exotic (real) readers.
;-) stw

Stephan H. Wissel, 2006-10-13

Sam Hill told you!

Clearly you have to visit a nation before you are qualified to (a) mention it in a post and (b) ban it from your site.

PS When did Ukraine drop the "the"? And why?

Ben Poole, 2006-10-13

"The" was dropped when the country became an independent nation instead of a subjugated region of the Soviet Union. To Ukrainians, referring to "the Ukraine" shows insensitivity to their hard won struggle and liberation from the USSR. It demonstrates cultural ignorance and (perhaps) arrogance.

Sam Hill, 2006-10-14

Thanks for clarifying Sam. I assure you, it’s ignorance on my part, not arrogance ;o)

Ben Poole, 2006-10-14

Puhhhh, that was close.

I live in Guandong Province, but apparently my provider is not Chinanet. I dont know what provider I have, but now I am afraid that my one will be the next.



Bela Schramm, 2006-10-18

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