One More Thing™

by Volker Weber

safari 3 icon

Now this is going to be interesting. Apple brings Safari to Windows. This should help the browser's market share.

Update für die deutschen Leser: Safari hat einen dicken Lokalisierungsfehler. Einfach im Safari-Verzeichnis en.lproj in de.lproj umbenennen und English.lproj in German.lproj. Schon klappt das auch mit der Darstellung. Ohne die lproj fehlt der halbe Browser.

Vorher:

C:\Programme\Safari\CFNetwork.resources\English.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\CoreFoundation.resources\en.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\PubSub.resources\English.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\Safari.resources\en.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\WebKit.resources\en.lproj

Nachher:

C:\Programme\Safari\CFNetwork.resources\German.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\CoreFoundation.resources\de.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\PubSub.resources\German.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\Safari.resources\de.lproj
C:\Programme\Safari\WebKit.resources\de.lproj

Comments

I don't know... Why would a Windows user chose Safari over Firefox? If (s)he opts for not using IE, Firefox is much more versatile with its AddOns, and I doubt performance is a factor that most browser users take into account.

Jan-Piet Mens, 2007-06-11

This is all about the iPhone. Safari for Windows lets windows web app developers create/test apps for the iPhone, plus iPhone will sync your Safari bookmarks...

Seth Crothers, 2007-06-11

Who owns the copyright on One More Thing, I'm sure I've said that all my life in arguments :-)

Carl Tyler, 2007-06-11

Wow .. Safari for windows is fast! so much faster that people will consider it. Most people just use a browser to get to stuff. They do not care about the extra crap. Very impressive

John Head, 2007-06-11

this comment was brought to you by Safari on XP (and I might post again from Safari on WINE on Ubuntu if that works too)

Alan Bell, 2007-06-11

Ok, I couldn't resist trying it out. It works, but where are the SSL certificates?

Jan-Piet Mens, 2007-06-11

.....läuft wohl nicht unter vista ultimate.....

Alexander Schäfer, 2007-06-11

Ich habe Firefox und Safari zugunsten von Camino aufgegeben, weil sie auf einem G4 Powerbook z.T. brutal langsam werden. Safari für Windows ist aber eine Alternative, welche ich morgen auf Arbeit gleich mal ausprobieren muss. =)

Philipp Sury, 2007-06-11

Philipp, wenn Safari langsam ist, dann solltest Du einmal die Bookmarks sichern, dann einen vollen Reset inklusive Cache und vor allem Icon Cache machen und dann die Bookmarks wieder importieren. Bei mir fliegt das Ding.

Volker Weber, 2007-06-12

@ Jan-Piet; Safari 3's javascript execution speed is almost an order of magnitude than Firefox's. If you use an HTML application such as Google Reader (or a much more complex form-based program) on anything but the latest hardware it matters very much.

@ John H. Firefox 3 gets a new Javascript execution environment and HTML rendering engine that will level the playing field. Look for it in a September beta.

IE looks pretty grim compared to either of these two.

David Richardson, 2007-06-12

Good comment, Seth, btw.

Volker Weber, 2007-06-12

Also der Eindruck unter Windows XP ist mehr als bescheiden. Sämtliche Standard Webseiten werden nicht korrekt dargestellt.

Kein Vergleich zu Firefox

Olaf Boerner, 2007-06-12

ich kann mich Olafs Meinung anschliesen, geht leider noch gar nicht.

ciao marco

marco foellmer, 2007-06-12

Selbst die Überschriften bei heise und spon fehlen bei mir (OS=Vista Ultimate) - ich glaube, da muss Apple noch ein wenig nachlegen - da nützt ja die beste Geschwindigkeit nix, wenn man nicht erkennen kann, worum es im Artikeln geht :-)

Henning Wriedt, 2007-06-12

Der neu gelaunchte IBM-Auftritt wird auch nicht sonderlich korrekt dargestellt.

Frank Mueller, 2007-06-12

Nice for a beta. But if they don´t fix the rendering engine I´d rather get blind before using Safari. Is that equally ugly on a Mac?

Armin Auth, 2007-06-12

iTunes and Safari are definitely a lot prettier on the Mac. But what issues are you getting? I’ve tried a few sites with Safari on XP, and they render just fine.

Ben Poole, 2007-06-12

The difference is pretty simple, Ben. You are not using Safari on a localized German Windows. :-)

Volker Weber, 2007-06-12

Ben, the fonts render blurred on my screen. Even if I adjust the settings it does not really improve. And, looks like I´m not alone:

What's Wrong With Apple's Font Rendering?

via Joel

Armin Auth, 2007-06-12

First Impressions of Safari on Windows:
- Fonts look different, fatter, antialising is applied
- Performace seems to be fast but IMHO not that different from Firefox
- Startup Time is similar to Firefox on my system
- This entry field can be resized, nice

-Various Beta Issues (reported):
-- Seen various crashed running on an English XP with German locale
+ Could not fill in this form, crash after typing the first 2 chars in the full name field
+ Crash when reporting bug (Help/Report Bugs to Apple) before I followed Volkers tip from above.
Have not seen any crashes since I followed Volkers tip from above
-- Copying written text from this entry field to Notepad does not preserve the line breaks
-- Safari's Window can not be arranged from the Windows Task Bar. Cascade/Tile Horizontally/Tile Vertically do not work.

Martin Forisch, 2007-06-12

Sollte man dann auch im Safari Verzeichnis die Ordner: "English.lproj" auch umbenennen in "German.lproj"?

Safari kann leider nicht mit em und strong unter einem Link umgehen, schade...

Christoph Gahmann, 2007-06-12

Another comment:
I find it rather interesting that the Safari Installer also offered to install Bonjour...
(AKA Rendezvous)

Martin Forisch, 2007-06-12

Hmm, my Safari still has huge rendering mistakes. Could this be because I forgot to close the browser when renaming the files?

Philipp Sury, 2007-06-13

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