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by Volker Weber

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These guys used to have the best editor for the Mac. Now it looks like they need to resort to comment spam. Sad. Has everybody switched to Textmate?


Not realy "switched to" but I use it from time to time.
Good small quick starting Editor.

Wolfgang Schmidetzki, 2007-09-01

BBEdit was / is awesome. But it’s always been bloody expensive. This wasn’t an issue a few years back, but now, now the competition in the Mac OS world has really got hot (especially at the free end of the market). A shame though, I agree.

Ben Poole, 2007-09-01

seems like it.

Not only is TextMate pretty good, but the Ruby on Rails push has helped; those original tutorials gave TextMate a lot of exposure.

I think it is impressive that the guy made Textmate a viable niche: M$ Visual Whatever and Eclipse have taken out most everything else. And Eclipse is now better on the Mac.

Although I just read the blog entry Netbeans THE best ruby on rails IDE and I will at least give it a brief try.

Lee Davis, 2007-09-01

BBEdit has a high market share among old-time Mac users because it's been around for so long, and once was really great.

TextMate is superb and draws its strength from relying on both OS X's UI and Unix features. It made me drop Emacs after almost 15 years. 'nuff said :-)

Stefan Tilkov, 2007-09-01

same here - I dropped Emacs for TextMate too. Best. Editor. Ever. Used. (And I've seen a few)

Jens-Christian Fischer, 2007-09-01

No thanks, I'm fine with vi.

Timo Stamm, 2007-09-01

Still using BBEdit Lite on classic - lightning fast for program editing, big database conversions etc even on my fossil computer.

Shame that TextMate (like so, so many other recent Mac software) requires to be installed on 10.4, thereby denying themselves about 23% of their potential market before they even begin (according to figures I have seen for users of older versions of OS X).

As I've said before, I know programming for 10.4 is a whole lot easier, but it does seem an odd approach. The release of 10.5 is probably not going to change that figure radically.

Nick Daisley, 2007-09-01

I bought a TextMate license the day I've installed the test version. I'm still using it for everything text file or programming related, only bigger projects still reside in Eclipse.

Henning Stoerk, 2007-09-01


One extreme is Delicious Library which has said there next version will require 10.5 and they will not release it until 10.5 ships.

I suspect that 23% of users who have prior versions represent less than 23% of the software purchasing.

But especially a programmer editor; developers have to support the latest OS version much sooner in OS X than Windows since a) there is not the "Enterprise" issues and/or b) OS X is not Vista. So if the developer has a current OS version machine, I would guess that is what the editor is running under.

Note this does not apply to Lotus, which my latest understanding is that they will release a Mac version of the R8 client-only next year but have not committed to supporting it on the then current version of OS X.

Lee Davis, 2007-09-03

I'm on TextMate since I tested it. The downside: Every other editor on every platform feels like a stupid toy, afterwards. Emacs et al. got all the right features, but in the wrong place. TextMate got not so many features, but definately in the right place. Once installed, never looked back. I'd love to have TM on Linux, although there's VIM and I'm quite used to it.

Karsten W. Rohrbach, 2007-09-03

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