Marco Börries has a fast car

by Volker Weber

Comments

Aston Martin, I guess.

Julian Buss, 2009-03-05

shame on you!
to fast for public streets / motorways

just my 2 cents

Rene Hellmann, 2009-03-05

how do you know that this picture was taken on a public street ?

Olaf Boerner, 2009-03-05

on this picture, at least, the driver is not taking the picture by himself... (compare the other pictures of fast rides @flickr)

Samuel Orsenne, 2009-03-05

Anyone flashing a camera towards the windscreen in the dark in a car at 300 Kmh is, IMO, more brave than intelligent. ;)

Vince Schuurman, 2009-03-05

If anyone takes the time to click through, you will find it's a DB9 Volante on the Autobahn between Hannover and Hamburg at 22:36 at night. There is plenty of space to go 300. And the small flash of a Nokia N85 is not that much of a problem. I would be more worried about the proper tire pressure.

I remember similar discussions about 200 km/h. Twenty years ago.

Volker Weber, 2009-03-05

Marco always had a fast car -- I remember riding in his Porsche in Hamburg nearly 20 years ago. Must have been about 1991.

Gee, was he young then (note: I was younger, too).

Mitch

Mitch Wolfson, 2009-03-05

300 km/h on public roads? I really can't understand this ...

Martin Imbeck, 2009-03-05

Sorry guys but where is the stirring wheel?

Jarno Parwot, 2009-03-06

Well, that's impressive, but I'll be even more impressed if he does the same thing with a bicycle. ;-)

Philipp Sury, 2009-03-06

This little calculator tells us it takes ~ 600 m to bring the car to halt when running at 300 km/h.

What if there was an accident ahead and people are just getting out of the car? Will you see them in time ? 600 m ahead at night ?

To be a grown up means to understand the possible consequences beforehand.

Lucius Bobikiewicz, 2009-03-06

booahh, alles Spielverderber. Geiles Auto, somewhat responsible people, why not.
Wenns Spass macht und man dabei niemanden stört, wieso nicht.

Chris Frei, 2009-03-06

Driving at 200kmh+ makes most drivers concentrate only on driving and nothing else. If I can choose between a driver driving 150% concentrated at 300 and a driver at 100, talking to me, gesturing and turning his head to me to support his talk, I choose to be a co-driver of the first. And the second type I have on a daily basis in front of my car when commuting. These are the ones causing most of the accidents.

Kai Scharwacht, 2009-03-06

Yeah, thats always the thing with the "blue LED-screen of death" in those windows controlled cars...

Henrik Heigl, 2009-03-08

Das nenne ich doch mal schlicht: Mordversuch.
Mir würde noch anderes einfallen, aber das ist leider nicht publizierbar.

Oswald Prucker, 2009-03-08

@Lucius Bobikiewicz:

This car most probably decelerates at more than 6.5 m/s² , lets say 12, this would account for a break length of 33 meters out of 100 km/h and 290 meters from 300 km/h.

Still a long way though...

Brad Carningham, 2009-03-08

@Brad and @Kai

I had this issues in mind but was to lazy to check.

Due to your postings I have now looked deeper into it and found the result being quite a surprise:

Best brakes with best tires under optimum (!) conditions decelerate with ~10 m/s2. Let us on top of this assume the driver is 150% concentrated and will not act within 1 sec, but within 0.5 sec.

Now go back to the calculator and type in these best-of conditions and you get a break lenght of ....... ~400 m.

Someone might now argue that it does not matter when the car stops. Important is that you can reduce the speed such that you can outmaneuver the "target".

Bad news here: If the hindrance is 250 m ahead you'll still running at almost 200km/h at the moment of impact. There is definitely no chance for any kind of rescue maneuver.

Lucius Bobikiewicz, 2009-03-08

@Lucius: thank you for this clear evaluation. It is a miracle to me how someone can be proud of such a behavior to even post pictures. These are the moments at which I think that gas is simply too cheap.

Oswald Prucker, 2009-03-08

These are the moments at which I think that gas is simply too cheap.


I don't think gas prices are much of an issue for s.o. driving an Aston Martin :-)

Stephen Dasper, 2009-03-08

@Lucius
These calculations won't fit. It will take even much longer to stop. In reality you can not start a full break with 300. At these speeds the car is never perfectly balanced and you would end in a deadly rotation. You have to break very slowly at least till you go 150-200 before starting a full break.

But tere are definitely a few places on german autobahns where you can see at night even a 1000 m. So if done responsively you do risk only your life.

Hynek Kobelka, 2009-03-08

Do any of you guys have any real life experience or do you just "know" this stuff? In lieu of that experience do you have any evidence that somebody traveling at 300 km/h on an empty Autobahn has crashed into an accident because he was unable to stop in the given distance to said accident scene?

Volker Weber, 2009-03-08

Volker, you were the reporter, not the driver - otherwise I had not commented on it at all.

Lucius Bobikiewicz, 2009-03-09

Lucius, I was neither.

Volker Weber, 2009-03-09

@Volker:
I really don't want to be the troll here, but I read your post after a 30 min ride on the A5 during which I passed twice at a speed of app. 150 km/h only to have a car like the one discussed pop up out of nowhere with the headlamp flasher angrily examining my trunk. Sorry, this speed whorshipping makes me just furios.

Oswald Prucker, 2009-03-09

Oswald, what you are describing is wreckless driving. When this happens, report it to the police. Every. Single. Time.

At the same time, you are confusing wreckless driving with speed.

Volker Weber, 2009-03-09

Volker, we will probably never agree on this issue but I strongly believe that certain cars go along with certain behavioral pattern. No insult intended. Above mentioned person of course strictly obeys each and every speed limit watching closely to keep a safe distance to any other car. Defensive driving is his top priority, I am sure.

In summary: I may confuse wreckless driving with speed. If so, it is on purpose.

Oswald Prucker, 2009-03-09

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