Lotus Office Cloud?

by Volker Weber

Looks like the e-office guys spotted a leak:

so don't miss this session to hear a new web-based document editing and sharing service from Lotus. This new collaborative document editing service will go far beyond basic web editing to deliver a cutting-edge user experience -- supporting web, Lotus Symphony and mobile clients. We'll demonstrate early builds, share our roadmap for market introduction and how it will fit with the larger Lotus portfolio. Don't miss the opportunity to get an early preview!

This smells of Dandelion, a research project demonstrated at Lotusphere last year. Collaborative online editing of documents.

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IBM-marketing speech translates to: "Someday we will release something that is overdue for years and will work some day. Maybe. Or not."

Ralf Stellmacher, 2009-12-09

another poor attempt of viral marketing...?

Dirk Rose, 2009-12-09

Go download the product from our website now. By answering all our questions you give us time to finish the product. :)

Thilo Hamberger, 2009-12-09

Come on, you are being nasty. It's quite obvious that Lotus has to do something now that both Google and Microsoft have office apps online.

Volker Weber, 2009-12-09

You mean "... now that they burried Does.Not.Workplace". Or do you mean "... now that they tried and failed big times with Quickr"?

Anyways: they tried, they failed, they tried again, failed again and will try again with another buzzword.

Ralf Stellmacher, 2009-12-10

What would you suggest?

Volker Weber, 2009-12-10

1) Think first, talk later. Release when it's done. And it's done when it is thoroughly public-beta tested.

2) Do not announce anything that is planned for a far distance future if at all.

3) Do not bullshit-bingo.

4) Do not do anything just "because XY did it too".

And -maybe most important-:
5) Think first, talk later. Release when it's done. And it's done when it is thoroughly public-beta tested.

Sorry if it sounds sceptic and disenchanted but i heard too much announcement and planning from IBM. With Notes/Domino 8.5 they went through a decent "think first, talk later, involve the user base in the testing"-cycle. Ok, 8.5 was crap, 8.5.1 did better. But -after all- it's a beginning. Hopefully this time IBM can skip the 8.5-ish step and releases a product that works right from the start, that is production ready like 8.5.1 is and 8.5.2 will hopefully be.

One thing is IMO still missing: did IBM ever asked the simple question "Do they (the users) really need it?" It's not "Do we (IBM) need it?" Nobody cares what IBM needs. If not, it's just like in 4)

Ralf Stellmacher, 2009-12-10

@Ralf,

"did IBM ever asked the simple question "Do they (the users) really need it?"

The user would never ever be asked. It's all about how the upper management is believing/trusting in vendors/cloud strategies.

Marc Egart, 2009-12-10

They can believe in church. Here, in reality, they have to know.

Ralf Stellmacher, 2009-12-11

It is not that I disagree and in many ways I am disappointed too but IBM is making money.
Full-Year 2008:
- Record revenue of $103.6 billion
- Record pre-tax profit of $16.7 billion
- Record earnings per share of $8.93
- Record free cash flow of $14.3 billion

I too think that QuickR stinks but then you read that company XY is deploying thousands of seats and keep asking myself how this works!?
I have given up on the illusion that if IBM would not waste their money on questionable projects that they would, for example, fix Notes and Domino instead. To be honest I even think that keeping people busy with other stuff is good for the parts that concern me because that also means that "experiments" are probably done somewhere else.
Having said that and looking at my poor Symphony installation maybe a cloud version can become something that works!? At the moment it probably also is the easiest way to better suppport mobile devices.
I don't have a demand but I do like the idea. And if LotusLive must go forward then you will need such a component anyway (and be it only because the competition has it).

Henning Heinz, 2009-12-11

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