What's going to happen to those stunning Lumias six months from now?

by Volker Weber

Microsoft is having a Windows Phone developer event in San Francisco starting today. And I have one question: what is going to happen to those Windows Phone 7 devices when version 8 ships?


I guess we already know the answer: http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/17/2956439/windows-phone-8-apollo-no-upgrade

There is no upgrade path from Windows Phone 7 to Windows Phone 8. At best there will be some maintenance updates.

Markus Dierker, 2012-06-20

I'd like to hear it from Microsoft, not from "sources".

Volker Weber, 2012-06-20

Yeah, understandable. Let's see when/if Microsoft has the guts to let the truth out.

Markus Dierker, 2012-06-20

Like you I am also waiting for this answer. Since I bought an Lumia my girlfriend is very happy with it. On the other hand, I would have myself very fucked up, if a device, which isn't nearly half a year old, wouldn't be supported for Windows Phone 8. If this would happen, Microsoft would have lost me as a customer for their Mobile Phones for ever. And I think, I would not be the only one.

Alper Iseri, 2012-06-20

I wouldn't worry. Abandoning products immediately after launch works so fine for the Android camp.

Hanno Zulla, 2012-06-20

Hanno, full Ack. But I still hope that Android crazyness will eventually go down to sensible levels someday.

Apple is getting praised for making iOS available for old hardware. But also there, there are features missing and a certain level of fragmentation might come in. They are smart enough to call it all iOS4, 5, or 6. On a technical basis this might not be the same for the WP7/8 situation, as they are most probable using different kernels, agreed.

Either way, we will know by tomorrow at this time, hopefully.

Hubert Stettner, 2012-06-20

Still not from the horse's mouth but close:

Markus Dierker, 2012-06-20

Not even close.

Volker Weber, 2012-06-20

Now: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/20/3096945/windows-phone-7-8-upgrade-no-windows-phone-8-existing-devices

Markus Dierker, 2012-06-20

They are getting Windows Phone 7.8, which is supposed to have most of the features, just not the native code, and Direct3D portions of the OS.

Ryan Partlow, 2012-06-20

CNet now claims:
Well, it's official.
Although Microsoft's newly unveiled Windows Phone 8 boasts exciting features like more customization options and integration with voice-over IP, one unpleasant suspicion we had about the new mobile OS has been confirmed: current Windows Phone devices won't be able to upgrade to WP8.

Stephan H. Wissel, 2012-06-20

MS have a history of producing propducts with difficult or no upgrade path, look how difficult each upgrade of Exchange is compaired to Lotus Domino/Notes. Most Android devices will get at least one upgrade. if you have 3.2 then unless you have a very old device you should get 4.0x at some point.

Generally the only reason Androide devices dont get upgrade is cause the HW is not capable of ruinning it.

Windows mobile 7 and 8 are such different animals its not true, they really are chalk and cheese.

I have seen comments in the IT press re MS Surface and Windows 8, like well this is the end of MS to MS is god. I am amazed how IT journalists can be so wrong, well at least 50% of them.

People rave about Apple, but the iPad and iphones are NOT corporate devices. MS Surface, at least the top end version, is a full corporate device. Apple just dont get it or more likley dont care. Surface can run the same software as is run on the desktop, an Apple Tablet by and large cannot. Yes the same can be said of the Android Tablets.

But at the end of the day it will all come down, as everything does, to $$$$ and a few cents. It will be cheeper in the long run for corporates to go with Surface devices and Win 8 phones, oits all about compatiability and security.

Predictions: In 2/3 years time Nokia will not be around, certainly in its current form, Apple will not be the biggest company in the world, and be back to where they were previously as a niche market. MS will be still in the same place makeing roughly the same profit levels. Surface V2 will be around and selling well. Android devices will be the same (market are and penetration) as now.

Nick Halliwell, 2012-06-24

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