That's worth printing out

by Volker Weber


Paul Mooney did an excellent speedgeeking session on this:

--- Bill

Bill Buchan, 2014-03-03 17:23

Then there is always the finder....

Chris Miller, 2014-03-03 19:32

The finder didn't find it because the directory was hidden.

We have a documentation problem because obviously I spent several minutes asking the Google monster first. Needed to unhide the Library directory to see what was underneath.

"It just works" right?

Ed Brill, 2014-03-03 20:26

Library is hidden, so you don't mess it up. And you don't need to go there. The Notes client tells you what you need to know. And it gives you the tools you need. Like archive and compact. What would you even do in ~/Library?

Volker Weber, 2014-03-03 20:56

Surely the main issue is that Notes, by default, stores its data in a sub-directory within ~/Library, which is (rightly) a little protected. ~/Documents might be a better place, no?

Ben Poole, 2014-03-03 22:21

sudo find / -name "*.nsf"

in will search the entire primary disk for files ending in .nsf and print out each path.

The item "Go to folder..." of the finder menu "Go to" will prompt for a path in a text input field, and open the path in a finder window.

Timo Stamm, 2014-03-03 22:54


Yes! yes! yes!

Andrew Magerman, 2014-03-03 22:59

I disagree, Andrew and Ben. ~/Documents contains documents. Stuff you click on to open. Not databases. You could do ~/IBM/Notes if you wanted to make the databases more visible.

Volker Weber, 2014-03-03 23:04

I wanted to know which files were the biggest disk hogs without having to navigate them one a time. In fact I had an old mail archive hanging out there that has been backed up on six different places over time and I don't need anymore. 6 GB or 5% back in a flash :-)

Ed Brill, 2014-03-03 23:13


point granted, although one *can* click on a notes database, and it opens in the notes client.

The Data Directory of the notes client has in any case always suffered from mixing up system files with pure user files. Each time I update a client, it boils down to handpicking the databases I really want, and then hoping that I still have replicas of the other databases.

@Ed: The default behaviour for showing the personal Library folder was changed in Mac OS X 10.7. It was visible as a default in the Finder beforehand. You can reset the behaviour using this command in your terminal:

chflags nohidden ~/Library/

Andrew Magerman, 2014-03-03 23:22

OS X keeps Time Machine data on your disk, to provide you with a way to restore files you deleted while away from your backup disk. It's a bit difficult to see how much space you really have left on your disk. Of course, once you run out of space, OS X will remove that Time Machine cache. Which isn't so cool. I like to keep at least 100 GB free so I never have to find files to delete. Nice and tidy, at all times.

Volker Weber, 2014-03-03 23:26

64 gb of a .nsf is maximum, or did it change with notes >version 7 ?

Thorsten Ebers, 2014-03-04 02:25

*munching popcorn*

Ingo Seifert, 2014-03-04 09:37

Open the admin client and go to the files view. Click on the menu next to 'Show me:' to show all file types, and click on 'All' next to that to show all files in the data directory. Then click on the column title 'Physical size' twice to see the biggest on top.

Oh no wait, there is no admin client for OS X...

Lars Berntrop-Bos, 2014-03-04 09:56

EasyFind is a fast and free alternative to such Terminal activities outlined by Timo.

Andreas Schmidt, 2014-03-04 09:57

@Ingo: i have soda, can you get me some popcorn

*sitting back and enjoying the show*

Chris Frei, 2014-03-04 13:22

In case you did not know because nobody seems to have mentioned it yet-

You can access your Library folder very easily by clicking on Go in the top menubar of Finder, hold down 'Alt', you will see Library magically appear in the list.

Andy Mell, 2014-03-04 15:45

>I wanted to know which files were the biggest disk hogs
>without having to navigate them one a time.

Perhaps there is a tool like SequoiaView for OSX? I been used that one to find disk hogs on my systems.

Seems like there is a tool called Disk Inventory X that have similar functionality:

Karl-Henry Martinsson, 2014-03-04 20:32

@Bill, I did a 2013/Notes9 version too

paul mooney, 2014-03-05 14:16

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