Wired: Outlook on Your Phone Is the Future of Email

by Volker Weber


So it’s a shame there’s hardly anyone dedicated to making email awesome. Except for Microsoft. Its Outlook app for iOS and Android is the best mobile email app, no matter what phone you’re using. It’s better than Mail, better than Gmail. It’s the biggest email innovation since spam filtering.

It really is. I am using it on all my devices.

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I do not use Outlook because of the complaints about data protection.

How is your experience with data protection in Outlook? Regarding all the reviews in the App Store about the lack of data protection.

Stefan Dorscht, 2016-01-22

0001 [Yawn]

Volker Weber, 2016-01-22

@Volker, what do you make of Rene's concerns?


Felix Binsack, 2016-01-22

I only use Outlook because of the complaints about data protection. :)

Ingo Seifert, 2016-01-22

GOTO 0001

Volker Weber, 2016-01-22

Blog von René Winkelmeyer - IBM Champion? Das sind doch die, die ihre Cloud zum Durchfegen runterfahren, oder?

Ingo Seifert, 2016-01-22

Volker, could you please explain? I'm too stupid to get that.

Stefan Dorscht, 2016-01-22

Stefan, all my emails are in both the Google and the Microsoft cloud. I call it high availability. Authentication of apps against Google works via OAuth. No passwords involved. Explain your concerns regarding "data protection".

Volker Weber, 2016-01-22

In all the years following comment threads written by technical people I do not recall anyone ever using a GOTO statement in a thread. Not only did you set a marker, you referred back to it later! Genius! LOL

John Vaughan, 2016-01-22

Thanks, Jonvon. I saw where this was going. I cannot mention Outlook for iOS/Android without the same discussion. It's like a broken record.

Volker Weber, 2016-01-22

I've to agree from the user perspective: the app is great.

The "data protection" discussion should be seen out of that. The way how data is accessed hasn't changed. It all depends if you (your company!) is good that part of your data is stored in a cloud. Volker's stuff is already in the MS cloud, so why bother?

@Ingo: IBM isn't pitch perfect with their cloud. No "big player" is. Like Juniper forced thousands of companies worldwide to re-deploy VPN only because Juniper decided to recreate the existing VPN app for iOS with a new identifier.

René Winkelmeyer, 2016-01-23

Right now on IOS I am wavering between (among?) Outlook, Spark and CloudMagic. For the moment Spark is winning.

Scott Hanson, 2016-01-23

I use it on Android as well, but do have one complaint: it is a big resource sucker ... probably not relevent on the high end and latest or greatest, but on my Moto G 2nd Gen it is annoying to wait on all the pauses.

Martin Hiegl, 2016-01-23

Bisher war nine mein Favorit, um auf Android meinen Outlook.com Account zu nutzen. Was ich in der Outlook App bis jetzt nicht verstehe: Wie hat man sich die Kontaktverwaltung vorgestellt? Wenn ich es richtig sehe, kann ich weder in der Outlook App noch nach Accounteinbindung in der Standard Kontakte App Kontakte hinzufügen oder bearbeiten.

Thomas Kahmann , 2016-01-24

This is very much broken on Android. You can only push contacts from Outlook to the native Contacts app on Android. It also does not add contacts on the server side.

Volker Weber, 2016-01-24

Good to know. However, not supporting the general account feature in android is quite a strange approach...

Thomas Kahmann Rigaer , 2016-01-24

Sounds like they've finally recreated what the native Blackberry apps do!

David Schaffer, 2016-01-24

Really annoying is the lack of support of recurring events in the iOS version.

Erwin Schliske, 2016-01-24

Anything near BlackBerry Hub experience yet?

Simon Rozman, 2016-01-25

What's the current recommendation for desktop e-mails if one is using a mac?

Andrew Magerman, 2016-01-25

I am using the browser.

Volker Weber, 2016-01-25

Just for the record, when using the Outlook app in business you're violating the german data protection law (Bundesdatenschutzgesetz aka BDSG).

Norbert Tretkowski, 2016-01-25

@Norbert Tretkowski: And the reason for that is? Since Microsoft is using the EU Model Clauses the accusation should be followed by some evidence. I tend to distrust Microsoft and others too. But in 2016 and without any reliable evidence you (and any other) only sound like a Troll.

Richard Kaufmann, 2016-01-25

Ich benutze auf Android immer noch Nine, da Outlook derzeit die (bei mir) automatisch vergebenen Kategorien nicht anzeigt. Außerdem habe ich bei Nine noch zusätzlich eine App-PIN. Und mit Nine klappt auch das Anlegen und Ändern von Kontakten einwandfrei. Sowohl auf einem Samsung als auch auf diversen Nexus-Geräten. Auch bei gleichzeitiger Verwendung mehrerer Office365-Accounts.

Richard Kaufmann, 2016-01-25

Richard, schaue ich mir mal an. Der Thomas Kahmann hat ja auch schon darauf hingewiesen.

Norbert, Du predigst in der falschen Kirche. ;-)

Volker Weber, 2016-01-25

Unfortunately, as Microsoft's help states, the Outlook App "provides 1-way sync from Office 365/Exchange to your iOS device ... We plan to improve Outlook's contact capabilities over the coming months.". If you change/add contact details on your iPhone, it will not get pushed back to Exchange. So my workaround is: Use the outlook app for "everything" and still use the iPhone's built-in Active Sync client just to sync my Office 365 contacts.

Friedrich Holstein, 2016-02-25

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