Slack vs Watson Workspace Load Times

by Volker Weber

They are both built using Electron. I have no idea what IBM is doing here.

Update: Not as terrible on the Mac as on Windows. So this may be fixable. Version 1.0.53 on both Mac and Windows.


Never mind, Volker. Probably IBM doesn't have, either ;)

Hubert Stettner, 2018-03-05 20:10

Try using Slack Enterprise (which consumes around 2GB of RAM - I wonder why people aren't complaining about RAM usage) - it takes as long if not longer to load and consumes 3-4 times more RAM than Watson Workspace.

Daniel Silva, 2018-03-05 21:18

The absolute overkill is using Franz messenger that instantiates a single Electron client per service - a nightmare. I am using it though just to save some task buttons. In general I don't get the WW idea so far. No benefits for me and the Watson services are the ones I couldn't care less. Persistent chats are a mess, with or without AI.

Oliver Busse, 2018-03-05 22:22

Daniel, I wasn't concerned about memory usage. Just checked task manager and Slack was at 250 MB and Watson Workspace at 490 MB. Did not make much difference to me since the machine has 16 GB of RAM.

I was also told that Watson Workspace loads faster than Slack on the Mac. Checked that as well and installed the same version. It is indeed different there. Watson Workspace loads in a reasonable time on Mac. Slack spends a bit of time connecting to the service first so the space is already updated when you see it. It's a race with no clear winner. About five seconds for both.

So wtf is going on with the Watson Workspace Client on Windows? Are all IBM developers on Macs and don't see the issue?

Oliver, I have a couple of persistant chats and they work for me. However, it's not easy to convince old time mail users there is a benefit in not sending everything through mail.

Volker Weber, 2018-03-05 22:35

Sure I prefer persistent chats over mail but chats tend to have more "noise" when I return after a few days. My inbox though is cleaned up in less time than I am able to gather all the channels - especially when you have to harvest several of them.

Oliver Busse, 2018-03-05 22:40

I probably would not try to catch up with chat after a few days. Some things take care of themselves, especially in realtime conversations.

But since you mention it, this seems to be one of the things that Watson Workspace wants to solve. I just can't get it to do that in a reasonable way. OTOH it is missing so many other things ...

Volker Weber, 2018-03-05 22:46

Exactly but from my experience it only does properly reduce clutter when the conversation is in English so far. It has a simple and working API / interface for own stuff though.

Oliver Busse, 2018-03-05 22:52

I have seen some examples of bot-like behaviours, but nothing convincing so far. Reminds me of "Mail that understands me". And then it did not take the world by storm.

Volker Weber, 2018-03-05 23:26

One way WW could be of tremendous use: listen to the conversations and figure out what looks like a consensus or decision and what it was about. Then present that in a special view.
Tracking decisions is a quite tricky unsolved business issue

Stephan H. Wissel, 2018-03-06 00:08

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